Jonathan Blitzer: Our New Internment Camps

Jonathan Blitzer: Our New Internment Camps

The Bulwark Podcast · 2026-07-15

While ICE is still murdering people in the streets, more than 60,000 people are currently being held in ICE detention centers across the country. The largest facility is at Fort Bliss in El Paso—which was an actual Japanese internment site in WWII. Detainees there are being deprived of needed medication; some have been held incommunicado; others have reported that the tent camp was not designed for humans to live there. When the conditions are not dire enough to make detainees self-deport, guards terrorize them into submission. Plus: Cuban and Venezuelan immigrants are particularly caught in the crosshairs of the escalating deportation campaign. And Tim holds forth on Trump's goons murdering our neighbors, ICE's reckless Kavanaugh stops, the straight-up Constitutional violations the administration is encouraging, and the illegal and marauding settler groups in the West Bank.

The New Yorker's Jon Blitzer joins Tim Miller.

show notes

Jon's piece, "Locked Away"Nick Miroff's Atlantic piece on the Maine shooting The NYT on Marco running Venezuela (gift link)The episode of "This American Life" Jon referenced, "What Is Your Emergency?"Jon's book, "Everyone Who Is Gone Is Here"The HBO Max show, "Proud," Tim referenced

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