The Real Organic Project with Dave Chapman | The Beet

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Episode Description:

The standards for organic farming were built with care and good intentions. But when today’s Beet Podcast guest discovered they’d been co-opted, he set out to change that. What started as a farmer organizing turned into a lifelong mission to reclaim the original meaning of “organic” by focusing on the soil. He and Logan dig into organic farming – and the tangled rules around what the word means today.



Connect with Dave Chapman:

Dave Chapman has been farming for 37 years and now runs Long Wind Farm in Vermont. He’s Co-Director of the Real Organic Project and a founding member of Vermont Organic Farmers. A driving force behind the Keep The Soil In Organic movement, Dave works to reclaim organic standards from the USDA. Through his roles in key associations and task forces, he’s pushing to restore the true meaning of “organic”.



Find more from Dave at the Real Organic Project: https://realorganicproject.org/




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